Peggy Discussion – About the Jabs

2023-12-25T17:00:48

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I’m in a forum and We were discussing the covid concept.  And more to the point, We were discussing the huge number of “excess deaths” since the roll-out of the jabs.  The One I was discussing things with – I’ll call Her “Peggy” – was trying to suggest that it was merely additional disease and not the jabs that caused the huge increase in deaths.

I asked, “What?  They all just increased at once to an enormous degree?  Is that what You're insinuating?  Out of the blue, for no reason?,” and the conversation followed:


No, what I am saying is that any of the things that kill people (or more than one) may have been the reason for the increase.

So...  What was it?  What is causing all the weird, never-before-seen blood clots?  What is causing heart issues in the young and healthy?

I work more than 10 hours a day, so my time to spend with things like that is very limited. If you accept the excess death data why don't you accept the reasons they present?

Because there is zero evidence that any virus exists, and because there is zero evidence of contagion.  That's why.

What?  should I just ignore all that and accept the BS They sold?  Ignore that there were NO excess deaths in 2020 until December when the jabs rolled out?  Ignore that deaths actually were just under 2019 that year until the jabs?

Ignore the fact that there are money/power and control motives at work?

That's because I haven't seen any of the fearmongering people talk about regarding the vaccines.

I haven't either.  Just honest People showing that there is a cabal behind these death jabs aiming to remove most of Us and control the Ones left 100%.

Some deaths may have been a side effect of the vaccines? Probably, but how many? Did people died with CoViD-19 symptoms? Yes, I knew at least two of them.

The "symptoms" of "covid" which does not exist include everything, including detoxing from toxic jabs.  I did a meme in 2020 showing a kitchen sink with the line, "Kitchen sink:  included in Covid symptoms."  Because so many and varied symptoms were being said were "covid."

Why did the flu, that normally kills many hundreds of thousands with comorbidities every year drop to fewer than 2,000 in 2020?  Why, in it's place was there "covid?"  Rebranding the flu to get fear rolling?  I say YES!


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I got a reply and responded:
>> How many deaths were the result of those "never-before-seen blood clots"? > > A lot.  But You make it out as if the sudden appearance of a plethora of never-before-seen blood clots – which are ***only*** being found in the jabbed, by the way – soon after the jabs rolled out has nothing to do with the jabs.  You can pull the "correlation does not equal causation" line here, but Let's look at the probabilities. > > Sure, it is conceivable that by happenstance some blood clotting mechanism just coincidentally cropped up only in the jabbed shortly after the jabs with things They have found that could cause that were introduced, but still unrelated.  But the probability that it was the jabs that caused these is vastly higher.  Like 99% or more it was the jabs to 1% or less it was all just happenstance. > >> Heart issues in the young and healthy are not a new thing. > > Really?  In droves?  Causing athletes to drop about 1 a month?  No.  Not in the least!  Sure, You can find a handful over the years if You look really hard, not "coincidentally" a thousand and more over three years since a jab came out. > > But "correlation does not equal causation!"  Another mechanism that coincidentally appeared having nothing to do with the jabs but arrived around the time of the jabs...and only is affecting the jabbed. > > So We have these coincidental new, unknown mechanisms crop up to affect the jabbed only.  Right.  I have a bridge I could sell You, too. > >> One thing diseases like influenza do, when they affect more the patient, is to affect the heart, that's why many people die from influenza and its side-effects. > > I have never, in 67 years, heard that the seasonal detox called "the flu" had any affect on the heart.  Why hundreds of thousands die while detoxing is because They have comorbidities and cannot handle the added strain of the detox. > > They are almost always old and feeble.  (Yes, You can find younger, compromised People dying with the flu, but statistically speaking, there are none.) > >> That's an easy way of avoiding problems, just say they do not exist… > > It's not "just saying" it.  It's the ***fact*** that no "virus" has ever been isolated, purified, and shown to cause disease.  No "virus" has ever been found directly from a host.  No genetic material has ever been seen – all "virus genomes" are created in silico with bits of genetic material They found floating about. > > The fact that nature cannot be patented, and yet all these "virus genomes" are patented should be a major clue. > > The fact that the same procedures They do (basically killing the cells and photographing debris emitted as the cell dies) to "find a virus" works with sick People's cells ***and*** well People's cells ***identically*** should be a major clue We're not seeing viruses, but just dead cell debris. > >> First of all, excess deaths (positive or negative) always existed, they were not invented for CoViD-19. > > Well, that's a cop-out.  Yes, deaths fluctuated up and down a bit year to year.  But since the jab, the excess deaths numbers are phenomenally higher than We have ever seen – and increasing in number daily.  But it's just that mysterious mechanism that just, by happenstance, cropped up when the jabs of toxins and nanotech and other crap were being forced into flesh.  Purely a coincidence. [I roll My eyes] > >> Second, what "NO excess deaths" are you talking about?  Worldwide?  One country? > > Worldwide.  Up until the jabs, the numbers were pretty consistent everywhere, and in 2020, the number were running in the normal range with a spike in mid-December when the jabs rolled out. > > It has increased every year since. > >> You call them "death jabs" but that's not fear mongering? > > Not based on the data.  You can think some number of mysterious and unexplained "diseases" just happened to come along, giving People weird clots, damaging young hearts in far greater numbers, and causing People to die suddenly in huge numbers within a year or two of the jabs, and that the jabs are "safe & effective" – but I will ponder how deeply into cognitive dissonance You have dived. > >> Even before they existed? > > Huh?  I called them "death jabs" when They started killing People.


So far, I have not heard back on My response.  What are Your thoughts?


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This article shows what I have found about the “finding” of a virus:

A Post to Be Viral  (article):  https://peakd.com/informationwar/@amaterasusolar/a-post-to-be-viral


And these are addressing the problem of psychopaths in control who planned the emic to get Us to volunteer to have Our flesh invaded with the toxins and tech:

The ONLY Winning Move is Not to Play  (article):  https://peakd.com/informationwar/@amaterasusolar/the-only-winning-move-is-not-to-play

Solving for Psychopaths in Control  (article):  https://peakd.com/informationwar/@amaterasusolar/solving-for-psychopaths-in-control

The Simplicity of Ethics  (article):  https://peakd.com/informationwar/@amaterasusolar/the-simplicity-of-ethics

The Humble One  (article):  https://peakd.com/informationwar/@amaterasusolar/the-humble-one


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My father taught Me never to believe anything.  He told Me to place probabilities and adjust them as new data come along, asking the question, "Does that explain what I see?," when evaluating data.  He was an aerospace engineer, and worked with T Townsend Brown (see My featured vid on Odysee or YouToilet).  From a very early age I was concerned that the way I was told things worked, in terms of government and social affairs, did not explain what I saw.  So the first few decades I worked to determine WHY this was.

I wound up in banking, seeing the flow of things in the headquarters of a major bank in Los Angeles.  I became intimately familiar with the flow of money, and economics.  I asked the question, "Why do We use money?"

When the web arrived, My research capabilities flourished, and I learned much that explained what I saw, but the only explanations I found for why We use money started with trade and barter, which are still money in a direct form, and did not answer the WHY.  Then, I came upon the explanation that these were used because, with a finite amount of stuff, it was to ensure that We got Our "fair share" in a scarcity environment, in exchange for the work We added.

From this I realized the WHY.  We were accounting for Our energy input into things.  And that We needed to do this because the Human energy was scarce compared to what We needed to be produced (back then).

I also discovered that over half Our planet's wealth was "owned" by fewer than 100 Humans...

I was very interested in psychology, too.  And studied it deeply, being fascinated by psychopathy, focusing on that aberration, learning that They had discovered a gene that manifested Individuals who were incapable of love, compassion, caring, and empathy for Others – primary psychopaths.  Seeing that the wealth was so disproportionate, and that the families who "owned" it inbred, what would explain what I saw would be that They wanted to retain that psychopathic gene.  Given that the wealth could feed, clothe, house ALL of Us (and give Us freedom) abundantly and many times over, and yet None set forth to care for Humanity, I had to give probability approaching 100% that They are psychopaths, as that explains perfectly what I see, and answers My quest for why the way I was told things worked did not explain what I saw.

And I asked...  If I was a psychopath, with enough wealth to buy anything and anyOne I wanted to, and given that money = power (power over Others is something psychopaths seek), would I be motivated to create a false "reality" for the masses and thereby manipulate Them?  I think You can figure out what answer I came up with.  And would that explain what I see?  Absolutely.

Now, given that money is merely the accounting token used to account for Our Human energy, it would follow that free energy would threaten fully the accounting for Our energy.  If I was a psychopath, with enough money to buy sites like Wikipedia, the media, the education system, etc., would I do all I could to suppress and hide free energy?

And given I personally know that electrogravitics offers both gravity control and energy from the aether (the electromagnetic field that pervades the universe), and that it went into black projects, such efforts to hide and suppress would explain what I see completely.

So I am neither a "conspiracy theorist," nor am I a "conspiritard," but rather...  I am a conspiracy analyst.  And given this analysis, knowing that conspiracies are the NORM in history and that they didn't just stop some years back, I conclude that conspiracies abound.  That explains perfectly what I see.


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